tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147741456737476069.post1614747693227718807..comments2023-09-28T04:33:28.740-04:00Comments on Room 213: I'm a teacher, not a police officerRoom 213http://www.blogger.com/profile/04994184250569494671noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147741456737476069.post-29303207362319510242019-03-24T05:28:13.665-04:002019-03-24T05:28:13.665-04:00Well said!Well said!Room 213https://www.blogger.com/profile/04994184250569494671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147741456737476069.post-89237687824475743542019-03-23T16:18:21.196-04:002019-03-23T16:18:21.196-04:00I totally agree about not being a policeman. Once...I totally agree about not being a policeman. Once I stopped being one life became a lot less stressful. <br /><br />Those who will hand things in late, or not at all, will do so anyway. <br /><br />As to teaching them to pay bills on time, definately not my job. But they will quickly when they have to pay a penalty or have their phone cancelled.<br /><br />You may have to get work done by a certain time in a workplace, but if you talk to anyone who works in an office you will learn that workers often miss these deadlines. <br /><br />What we should be teaching them is how to be troubleshoot and be responsible enough to admit they can't make the deadline and ask for an extension.<br /><br />@tlmarkides@tlmarkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06785599525919808334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147741456737476069.post-20511907598379593422015-05-12T16:06:35.651-04:002015-05-12T16:06:35.651-04:00Lauralee, our marks are cumulative, so even though...Lauralee, our marks are cumulative, so even though we give midterm marks for report cards, they aren't set in stone until the very end of the semester. Also, any formative marks I give are for feedback only and aren't counted in the average. Our online grading system allows us to mark assignments as formative or summative with formative not counted as a mark. It took parents awhile to get used to that but they like it now.<br /><br /> I do have some tricks for the issue you brought up about fixing errors but not learning anything. My post should be ready soon!Room 213https://www.blogger.com/profile/04994184250569494671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147741456737476069.post-18506583140268191642015-05-12T14:15:08.281-04:002015-05-12T14:15:08.281-04:00When I was in high school, our computer teacher ha...When I was in high school, our computer teacher had a similar policy. We could turn in any assignment, fix any assignment for a better grade. She theorized that if we were willing to do the work, than she would be too.<br /><br />I think I ended up with an A+ in the class, which I didn't deserve. I fixed every tiny error, redid assignments, and on. BUT - I didn't really learn anything. For instance, we had to do a letter assignment where we had to schedule different recipients' addresses. I couldn't remember how to do it (it had been taught months ago), so I just typed the letters out with different addresses. I was focused on the grade, not learning.<br /><br />Sorry for the long story. It gave me two thoughts though. One, like you said, students are probably going to continue as they were before. I found a way to get a good grade, like I probably would have with any other system. Two, I think I would have learned more with some boundaries. <br /><br />I like the idea of not being a police officer, because you are correct - that it isn't our job. (I once took off points for not having names on papers, but stopped that after my first year). I also see Mrs. Spangler's points. There are due dates in life. I don't know the right answer.<br /><br />My last question is - what do you do about quarters and semester grades? Is Canada set up the same as many schools in the USA? For instance, at my old school, once the quarter was over, I couldn't allow students to change their work - I had already given them the grade. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00682064225081889667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147741456737476069.post-83841517373474685252015-05-12T13:54:03.576-04:002015-05-12T13:54:03.576-04:00I'm totally with you, Lisa. I fought that bat...I'm totally with you, Lisa. I fought that battle with myself for years. However, once I decided to switch over to the dark side and get a little more relaxed (it was a battle), I found that there was not a big change. The kids who were slack were still slack, but vast majority still adhered to the due dates. The only difference was that the ones who were allowed to pass things in late were learning more. I log the idea of asking your students!Room 213https://www.blogger.com/profile/04994184250569494671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147741456737476069.post-57038854260403980762015-05-12T06:43:51.872-04:002015-05-12T06:43:51.872-04:00One side of me says "If we just allow work wh...One side of me says "If we just allow work whenever, what the point of due dates? And then am I teaching them that due dates for things like the electric bill don't matter?" The other side of me says "I want them to learn the concept no matte how long it takes." I haven't been able to find a compromise. I think I might pose this topic to my 8th graders and see what they say! <br /><br />-Lisa<br /><a href="http://mrsspanglerinthemiddle.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Mrs. Spangler in the Middle</a>Mrs. Spangler in the Middlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17137268748395471302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147741456737476069.post-56303974809108839902015-05-11T19:19:04.227-04:002015-05-11T19:19:04.227-04:00So, when I was student teaching, I let students re...So, when I was student teaching, I let students revise any assignment if they had turned it in on time. Basically, a student could go back and incorporate peer and teacher feedback and make every assignment better and brighter. Somewhere along the line, I lost that optimism. I, too, worried (and worry) about having too much marking at the end of the semester. I am excited to see your next post on how you manage it. <br /><br />Best, <br />-Danielle @ NouvelleDanielle Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05993040177310552974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147741456737476069.post-80788526182650857212015-05-11T19:16:26.156-04:002015-05-11T19:16:26.156-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210396811492959083noreply@blogger.com